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as with anything else, you NEVER want to be confrontational when deling with cops, you never know if you have a good one or a scared child with a inferiority complex in a police uniform. So, always be polite, show respect (you'll usually get respect back) and dont go looking for trouble. I dont condone those people on youtube that go out looking to get cops all riled up just to see how far it will go, not at all. But you really do need to know your rights and what the cops can and cannot do.
If you get pulled over for doing something wrong or not doing it, take the ticket, be polite, record the interaction and fight it in court, no reason to give the cop a hard time over it.
Kolchak, I'll ignore the jab about the Air Force, and I assume you have never been on a AF base so let me give you some info, on most AFBs there are a large population of non-military personnel that dont fall under the UCMJ and must be treated as any other civilian, I'll admit tho that 80% of the time you are dealing with a person with A LOT to loose if they get busted, a good job, a security clearance, etc but dont be fooled, many of them like to dish out the same <deleted> with the SPs as they do with civilian police, actually, in some cases probably more. Dont forget about all the "wild cards" that show up for air shows and special open house events that wouldnt normally be on the base.....those are the worse.
If you get pulled over for doing something wrong or not doing it, take the ticket, be polite, record the interaction and fight it in court, no reason to give the cop a hard time over it.
Kolchak, I'll ignore the jab about the Air Force, and I assume you have never been on a AF base so let me give you some info, on most AFBs there are a large population of non-military personnel that dont fall under the UCMJ and must be treated as any other civilian, I'll admit tho that 80% of the time you are dealing with a person with A LOT to loose if they get busted, a good job, a security clearance, etc but dont be fooled, many of them like to dish out the same <deleted> with the SPs as they do with civilian police, actually, in some cases probably more. Dont forget about all the "wild cards" that show up for air shows and special open house events that wouldnt normally be on the base.....those are the worse.
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Spookymufu wrote:as with anything else, you NEVER want to be confrontational when deling with cops, you never know if you have a good one or a scared child with a inferiority complex in a police uniform. So, always be polite, show respect (you'll usually get respect back) and dont go looking for trouble. I dont condone those people on youtube that go out looking to get cops all riled up just to see how far it will go, not at all. But you really do need to know your rights and what the cops can and cannot do.
If you get pulled over for doing something wrong or not doing it, take the ticket, be polite, record the interaction and fight it in court, no reason to give the cop a hard time over it.
Kolchak, I'll ignore the jab about the Air Force, and I assume you have never been on a AF base so let me give you some info, on most AFBs there are a large population of non-military personnel that dont fall under the UCMJ and must be treated as any other civilian, I'll admit tho that 80% of the time you are dealing with a person with A LOT to loose if they get busted, a good job, a security clearance, etc but dont be fooled, many of them like to dish out the same <deleted> with the SPs as they do with civilian police, actually, in some cases probably more. Dont forget about all the "wild cards" that show up for air shows and special open house events that wouldnt normally be on the base.....those are the worse.
Knowing your rights is always a good thing. Just make sure you actually do know your rights. But be prepared, if you are wrong to find yourself sitting in the back of a patrol car with an obstruction charge looking at you. You want to play lawyer? Fine. Just make sure you are right AND you can prove it.
I was once stopped by a young officer in another jurisdiction for running a stop sign. I had not run the stop sign. He said I did and became quite belligerent. I never showed him my ID, or told him who I was, but after his little tirade I went to the station and spoke with his chief, who knew me. The kid was called in from patrol and was adamant I had run the stop sign, the chief said okay, then you can pass a polygraph and prove it. Seems I wasn't the first to complain on the boy. The kid became more irate and began yelling at the chief. The chief suspended him on the spot, he was later terminated and his certification was revoked. Last I heard, he was working as a truck driver. There is a time and place for everything. Letting yourself go and acting the fool, does you no good at the end of the day.
Son. Not only have I been on an air force base, I "captured" Myrtle Beach and Homestead AFBs when they were still active bases and "killed" many SP's. I was with 2/502, Delta Dragons, 101st Airborne 1982-1986. We played aggressors to the boys in the pretty berets. Maybe if they'd taken more care of their security measures than blousing their boots, they might have not looked so bad. Furthermore, my father was in the old army air corps and later the air force when it became a became a separate branch. He flew the Hump in the CBI with 1st Air Commando. My brother served as an ATC at Tan san Nhut AB in Saigon, 1969-1970.
Since leaving active service I have trained SP's, today they are called Security Forces, from the Georgia, Florida and South Carolina air guard. Some are really good and others are the scared child you refer too. They're pretty good at dishing it out but pout like a spoiled children when the mess up. It was airmen like that who caused the air force not to rely on their own people but bring in armored cavalry and light infantry units to secure some of the NATO air bases in forward operating areas during the troubles in Bosnia, Croatia and other parts of the former Yugoslavia.
I spent most of 2006 and 2007 in Afghanistan training local security and law enforcement. On October 27, 2007 I was ambushed while on convoy duty and spent almost a month in a coma and had to learn to walk all over again. So you see, Halloween has a very special significance for me.
I have both a BA and an MA in Criminology and am licensed to give polygraph's in Georgia and Florida. I have taught and taken classes at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center in Glynnco Georgia. I have taught tactical operations at both the state and local level and am past Vice President of the Georgia Tactical Officers Association.
I have been classified as an expert trial witness on firearms, police tactical issues and the occult and paranormal in criminal cases. If you find stuff on the internet dealing with satanic and voodoo crimes, you might find my real name.
Put simply. I've been. I've done that. And I have a whole closet full of T-shirts.
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All you that doth my grave pass by,
As you are now so once was I,
As I am now so you must be,
Prepare for death & follow me.
As you are now so once was I,
As I am now so you must be,
Prepare for death & follow me.
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Andybev01 wrote:This is for both of you:
I have that poster in my rec room!





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Kolchak wrote:Spookymufu wrote:as with anything else, you NEVER want to be confrontational when deling with cops, you never know if you have a good one or a scared child with a inferiority complex in a police uniform. So, always be polite, show respect (you'll usually get respect back) and dont go looking for trouble. I dont condone those people on youtube that go out looking to get cops all riled up just to see how far it will go, not at all. But you really do need to know your rights and what the cops can and cannot do.
If you get pulled over for doing something wrong or not doing it, take the ticket, be polite, record the interaction and fight it in court, no reason to give the cop a hard time over it.
Kolchak, I'll ignore the jab about the Air Force, and I assume you have never been on a AF base so let me give you some info, on most AFBs there are a large population of non-military personnel that dont fall under the UCMJ and must be treated as any other civilian, I'll admit tho that 80% of the time you are dealing with a person with A LOT to loose if they get busted, a good job, a security clearance, etc but dont be fooled, many of them like to dish out the same <deleted> with the SPs as they do with civilian police, actually, in some cases probably more. Dont forget about all the "wild cards" that show up for air shows and special open house events that wouldnt normally be on the base.....those are the worse.
Knowing your rights is always a good thing. Just make sure you actually do know your rights. But be prepared, if you are wrong to find yourself sitting in the back of a patrol car with an obstruction charge looking at you. You want to play lawyer? Fine. Just make sure you are right AND you can prove it.
I was once stopped by a young officer in another jurisdiction for running a stop sign. I had not run the stop sign. He said I did and became quite belligerent. I never showed him my ID, or told him who I was. I just showed my license and insurance as required by law. Above all I kept my cool.
After his little tirade I went to the station and spoke with his chief, who knew me. The kid was called in from patrol and was adamant I had run the stop sign, the chief said okay, then you can pass a polygraph and prove it. Seems I wasn't the first to complain on the boy. The kid became more irate and began yelling at the chief. The chief suspended him on the spot, he was later terminated and his certification was revoked. Last I heard, he was working as a truck driver. There is a time and place for everything. Letting yourself go and acting the fool, does you no good at the end of the day.
Son. Not only have I been on an air force base, I "captured" Myrtle Beach and Homestead AFBs when they were still active bases and "killed" many SP's. I was with 2/502, Delta Dragons, 101st Airborne 1982-1986. We played aggressors to the boys in the pretty berets. Maybe if they'd taken more care of their security measures than blousing their boots, they might have not looked so bad. Furthermore, my father was in the old army air corps and later the air force when it became a became a separate branch. He flew the Hump in the CBI with 1st Air Commando. My brother served as an ATC at Tan san Nhut AB in Saigon, 1969-1970.
Since leaving active service I have trained SP's, today they are called Security Forces, from the Georgia, Florida and South Carolina air guard. Some are really good and others are the scared child you refer too. They're pretty good at dishing it out but pout like a spoiled children when the mess up. It was airmen like that who caused the air force not to rely on their own people but bring in armored cavalry and light infantry units to secure some of the NATO air bases in forward operating areas during the troubles in Bosnia, Croatia and other parts of the former Yugoslavia.
I spent most of 2006 and 2007 in Afghanistan training local security and law enforcement. On October 27, 2007 I was ambushed while on convoy duty and spent almost a month in a coma and had to learn to walk all over again. So you see, Halloween has a very special significance for me.
I have both a BA and an MA in Criminology and am licensed to give polygraph's in Georgia and Florida. I have taught and taken classes at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center in Glynnco Georgia. I have taught tactical operations at both the state and local level and am past Vice President of the Georgia Tactical Officers Association.
I have been classified as an expert trial witness on firearms, police tactical issues and the occult and paranormal in criminal cases. If you find stuff on the internet dealing with satanic and voodoo crimes, you might find my real name.
Put simply. I've been. I've done that. And I have a whole closet full of T-shirts.
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well......thats all very impressive........
means nothing tho if you violate peoples constitutional rights in course of your duties.
Hopefully you're not one of those and you're one of the good ones., I'll assume you are since I dont know you personally
oh, and something you said earlier about the media not getting the whole story, or not reporting the whole story, I agree, a lot of times there is more to the incident then whats initially reported and most level headed people know that but there are always the most vocal groups that want the cops head on a platter before they know what exactly happened.
means nothing tho if you violate peoples constitutional rights in course of your duties.
Hopefully you're not one of those and you're one of the good ones., I'll assume you are since I dont know you personally
oh, and something you said earlier about the media not getting the whole story, or not reporting the whole story, I agree, a lot of times there is more to the incident then whats initially reported and most level headed people know that but there are always the most vocal groups that want the cops head on a platter before they know what exactly happened.
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Spookymufu wrote:well......thats all very impressive........
means nothing tho if you violate peoples constitutional rights in course of your duties.
Hopefully you're not one of those and you're one of the good ones., I'll assume you are since I dont know you personally
oh, and something you said earlier about the media not getting the whole story, or not reporting the whole story, I agree, a lot of times there is more to the incident then whats initially reported and most level headed people know that but there are always the most vocal groups that want the cops head on a platter before they know what exactly happened.
Not impressive. It's just my life. I live it my way. Like I said Hoss. Been there. Done that. Books and movies are fun, but I have the passport and wounds to prove my bona-fides.
I took my oath to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic in 1980. I take that oath seriously. Most police and service men and women feel the same way. Are there bad ones out there? Yes, there are and I don't want them out there anymore than any citizen does.
The question arises however, are those who are giving you the orders to do what you are told, living up to their end of the bargain? What is considered justice in one state, will draw cries of outrage from other states who don't see the law in the same manner. who is right? What are you going to do about it?
Randy Weaver was accused of being a white supremacist and violent anti-government radical. His wife was shot and killed by an FBI sniper while she held a baby in her arms. Weavers teenage son was shot and killed as well. When they went to trial the truth came out that he was not a white supremacist and he was not advocating the violent overthrow of the government. It was all a lie. The federal government lied and the FBI sniper who killed Weavers wife was indicted for murder by the Idaho attorney general. Unfortunately the federal government got away with the crime by using their federal "get out of jail free card" and said the state could not indict a federal officer working for the federal government. Where is the justice and the Constitution there?
A year later 76 people including children were burned up by the federal government under the guise of illegal weapons and abusing children. Later during the federal trial, it was found the federal government lied and broke and did not follow their own proper protocol. Every single person the government tried, was acquitted and the case only proved the excess with which the federal government would go to kill those they thought were an impediment.
In 1996 the FBI attempted to frame an innocent man following the bombing in Atlanta Olympics. Under the guise of a training aid, they wanted him to sign a confession. Thankfully he refused. As it turned out he was totally innocent of the crime and was in fact a hero. The FBI agent who attempted to trick him was given a one page reprimand. That was all.
In Ruby Ridge and Waco none of the FBI, ATF or US Marshalls were disciplined for breaking the law, lying and not upholding their oaths as agents of US law enforcement.
To assume that federal officers are above the law based solely on their being from the US government is a much bigger problem than anything a local cop has ever done. Wrong is wrong. When the federal government starts to follow the Constitution, then it will be much easier for the state, county and municipal police to be kept honest too.
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all those long-wided posts, it would have just been easier to say "you're right Spooky" because you pretty much said the same things I did in my first posts concerning the important parts of this dialogue....


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Since you had been in the air force I had to use language you would understand. Hence the need to guide you step by step.
And the word is winded.
And the word is winded.

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NeverMore wrote:Ahhh... but as Jack Reacher said, everyone he dealt with was a trained killer.Kolchak wrote:For the record. The UCMJ is much easier to enforce than civilian law enforcement.
You know, I never saw the movie or read the books. I'm more of Clive Cussler, Stephen Hunter and Jack Higgins fan. In fact Stephen Hunter has a new book out called I, Ripper, which is his fictional account of Jack the Ripper. I haven't read it yet, but I look forward to it.
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A book about Jack the Ripper? That sounds interesting.
My Mom always used to talk about Jack the Ripper; but that was her way of trying to convince me not to talk to strangers.
And then came along the internet.
Honestly if it weren't for the internet, I probably wouldn't have much of a social life. It's also thanks to the internet that I met my soul mate. I thank goodness for the internet, I know some people think it's scary or even "the devil" but the internet has brought me many good things. This forum is another one. I think people thought it was scary at first, but as long as you use common sense when you meet someone from the internet for the first time, you'll be alright.
Who knows, if I don't end up teaching a traditional classroom, maybe I'll teach a cyber classroom one day.
I can't say much about the military because I never joined it. My Dad however was in the National Guard. I'm not at all surprised that the Government has had some cover-ups though. In all honesty I don't trust it; and I don't think today's Government is anything at all like our Founding Father's envisioned. Knowing what we know about it today, I reckon good ol' George Washington is turning over in his grave.
My Mom always used to talk about Jack the Ripper; but that was her way of trying to convince me not to talk to strangers.
And then came along the internet.

Honestly if it weren't for the internet, I probably wouldn't have much of a social life. It's also thanks to the internet that I met my soul mate. I thank goodness for the internet, I know some people think it's scary or even "the devil" but the internet has brought me many good things. This forum is another one. I think people thought it was scary at first, but as long as you use common sense when you meet someone from the internet for the first time, you'll be alright.
Who knows, if I don't end up teaching a traditional classroom, maybe I'll teach a cyber classroom one day.

I can't say much about the military because I never joined it. My Dad however was in the National Guard. I'm not at all surprised that the Government has had some cover-ups though. In all honesty I don't trust it; and I don't think today's Government is anything at all like our Founding Father's envisioned. Knowing what we know about it today, I reckon good ol' George Washington is turning over in his grave.
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uh huh......*rolls eyes* (I bet you get a lot dont yaKolchak wrote:Since you had been in the air force I had to use language you would understand. Hence the need to guide you step by step.
And the word is winded.

like I said, you agreed with me on all the important parts, the rest of your posts were fluff
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Well, since you read everyone and responded to all of them, does that mean we have to start calling you Fluffy?
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MauEvig wrote:Anytime I see the word fluffy I think of that comedian Gabriel Iglesias.

(Im no where near that big

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